http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#94b19cdc-0097-4762-bbf7-d95d27bce59b Indeed! Somehow I doubt that is going to make the school loan payments hurt any less. :) Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:18:14 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#94b19cdc-0097-4762-bbf7-d95d27bce59b Bannefin 2007-04-24T15:18:14Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#3409a538-6a40-4db9-b25a-912823838c00 I knew my B.A. in Classical Archaeology would come in handy some day...tee hee ;o) Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:00:15 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#3409a538-6a40-4db9-b25a-912823838c00 Daisie 2007-04-20T16:00:15Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#e7e98b2d-8526-4e20-8629-67a3f02610c2 Wow Annie, thanks for all of the posts. Good bits of info! Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:01:17 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#e7e98b2d-8526-4e20-8629-67a3f02610c2 Bannefin 2007-04-19T15:01:17Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#24d24ff9-923c-4a32-bf6b-756edb0cb7bb I think the theatrical use of "thespian" comes from a guy named Thespis who lived during the 500s BCE (don't remember exactly when). He was the legendary "first actor" or the first to create the role of the "actor" on stage. I've also heard he was the first playwright of the Greek tragedy genre. Some scholars debate how historically accurate this is however...from what I understand...which actually isn't much. LOL. :) Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:34:35 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#24d24ff9-923c-4a32-bf6b-756edb0cb7bb Daisie 2007-04-11T00:34:35Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#328a13db-eef3-43af-bbf3-483f2e4fe26d Thanks Annie. Could you tell me how "thespian" came to be used to describe an actor? Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:54:28 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#328a13db-eef3-43af-bbf3-483f2e4fe26d Nette 2007-04-10T23:54:28Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#a0930d2b-7d0b-4df9-93e0-54ac9205e7d0 Actually, Spartans did not fight in the nude, quite the contrary. Spartan hoplites would have had heavy armor in battle, not that much different from the Greek hoplite. This is actually an inaccuracy in the movie. However, the film makers have said (as was mentioned above) that when it came to history vs. keeping with the graphic novel...they chose the latter and they mentioned this instance (almost nude as opposed to historical accuracy) specifically. They wanted to portray the intense training that the Spartans went through, and they felt the best way to do that was through feats of physical strength and fighting, as well as showing the male body in pretty much perfect form, without a breast plate or heavy armor covering it. That said, the Greeks did have games and sports played in the nude, just not in combat (even though Greek hoplites might have been portrayed as such on vases or other pottery). On a side note, there weren't only 300 Spartans left during the last hours of the battle, there were also around 700 Thespians (who refused to leave with the other Greeks) that stayed to fight until the end. So technically it's the last stand of the Spartans AND Thespians at Thermopylae. Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:12:29 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#a0930d2b-7d0b-4df9-93e0-54ac9205e7d0 Daisie 2007-04-10T15:12:29Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#5d904fa5-6cd9-45a6-9224-1f8bd68f50eb I wouldn't say it's a must see - especially not for the costumes. Xerxes? Ugh. The Persian army... well, they were demonized in the legend, to make the odds against the 300 look as bad as they could, so a bit of artistic license there is okay I guess. The Spartan women's costumes were just silly, and the men... DAMNIT! Gerard Butler was supposed to be NUDE!!! Stupid puritan Hollywood sensibilities! There was a nice bit of narration drawn from the Greek legend, and the "feel" of the movie was really quite chilling... yes the fight scenes are long and bloody and EXCITING, but this tale is gigantic in scale so I think they did a good job. I hope there's more where this came from! Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:46:26 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#5d904fa5-6cd9-45a6-9224-1f8bd68f50eb Nette 2007-04-10T11:46:26Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#9bdaec92-51bc-48ee-9b60-ea1d874a1f94 I dunno, I keep passing this movie off as not worth seeing -- more hollywood and titillating than anything. Can someone actually say it is a must see for those knowledgeable of Ancient Greece? Thanks ! Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:51:14 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#9bdaec92-51bc-48ee-9b60-ea1d874a1f94 nathan 2007-04-10T00:51:14Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#9e613d96-4c5f-4a0b-a41c-a64588c80181 Gory, but beautiful. Tragic (and in places ridiculously over-acted) but believable, in a way. Humanised like the classic tale should be, owing to it's importance in ancient Greece's sense of identity as a nation. And now can anyone argue against the obvious fact that GERARD BUTLER IS THE MANLIEST MAN ON THE PLANET??? Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:09:10 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#9e613d96-4c5f-4a0b-a41c-a64588c80181 Nette 2007-04-09T11:09:10Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#a1247529-a756-4e4c-a9ff-d153decfb532 I don't know all the history, I don't even know the comic, but the movie was fantastic, seen it twice already. There's a reason why this movie is making records in the box office. Movies like Alexander and Troy are nice to look at, but the difference is 300 actually has a good script and isn't boring in the least. IMO, anyway. I love that there are so many familiar faces in the Spartan army. Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:19:15 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#a1247529-a756-4e4c-a9ff-d153decfb532 Allison 2007-03-26T02:19:15Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#edc6d35a-9781-447b-9f37-6a97acca5459 I'm looking forward to seeing the movie, but i have no illusions of it being historically accurate... Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:51:43 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#edc6d35a-9781-447b-9f37-6a97acca5459 Anat 2007-03-25T15:51:43Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#300f7698-65e3-49fe-8e34-a2c0a881239d exactly, so much of Greek Mythology and History is classic...All about man's strife for beauty, wealth and eternal well being in the afterlife. Would love to get a grand big book of illustrated tales...time to use my Barnes and Noble card. Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:21:48 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#300f7698-65e3-49fe-8e34-a2c0a881239d Abe 2007-03-06T21:21:48Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#0e0b3ed2-dc4a-4d50-830e-fb1b411d7c57 I don't know about the book, but I am eager to see the film. The story is great. I wish all the great works of greek literature, greek philosophy and history would be made into films. If the film is a bomb, somebody should just make another one. Tue, 06 Mar 2007 06:46:14 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#0e0b3ed2-dc4a-4d50-830e-fb1b411d7c57 lorenzo 2007-03-06T06:46:14Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#757ba3ee-2502-4726-9f1e-6f3a6f6b2b30 The books arr really well done, if the film can approach that standard, it will be fantastic! Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:52:49 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#757ba3ee-2502-4726-9f1e-6f3a6f6b2b30 matteo 2007-03-03T13:52:49Z http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#0d0a57f2-91c7-4d15-9a9c-39fb7b63b4d4 Can't wait to see this movie! http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/ The company my sister works for has produced this film. It's a highly stylized version. Drawing on many of the scenes from the comic book, not the actual story. Nevertheless it really make some wonderful drama. Anyone got any sneak peaks or thoughts on this? Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:30:29 GMT http://greecerome.tribe.net/thread/92614e4f-9113-4c89-b345-462c963ed691#0d0a57f2-91c7-4d15-9a9c-39fb7b63b4d4 Abe 2007-03-02T19:30:29Z